A Guide to Your Nervous System: Understanding Your Window of Tolerance

A Guide to Your Nervous System: Understanding Your Window of Tolerance

Have you noticed why on some days you can handle stressors with ease while on other days, similar situations leave you feeling overwhelmed? Well, if you have, you are most definitely not alone. 

In this post, we’ll explore how your nervous system works and introduce the Window of Tolerance. We will also take a look at what happens when stressors push you beyond this window into a state of hyperarousal or hypoarousal. 

So what is the Window of Tolerance and how does it work? 

The window of tolerance refers to the optimal state in which our nervous system is able to effectively respond to stressors, challenges or uncertainties (Neff, 2023). When we are in this window, we are more likely to feel engaged, curious, grounded and calm (Neff, 2023). Our nervous system helps us adjust to our surroundings through two processes: the sympathetic nervous system which increases activation and energy, otherwise known as the “fight or flight” response and the parasympathetic nervous system which reinforces rest, otherwise known as the “rest and digest” response. 

It is important to note that the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems work conjointly to respond to everyday stressors and challenges.  

Dr. Megan Anna Neff shares an important metaphor of a gas and brake pedal of a car, acting as the sympathetic and parasympathetic process working together (Neff, 2023). Moreover, she notes that such fluctuations between both processes are necessary as she speaks about an activation of the sympathetic nervous system when faced with a stressor or engagement of the parasympathetic nervous system when we are going to sleep (Neff, 2023). 

Now you may be asking yourself, what happens when we leave our window of tolerance?

The body goes into one of two states. In the hyperarousal state, the sympathetic nervous system predominates, and our body becomes mobilized for action (Neff, 2023). Some common signs our body is entering a hyperarousal state include panic, fear, a racing heart, heightened awareness or aggression (Neff, 2023). 

In a hyperarousal state, the body needs regulation which can look like: 

  • Mindfulness and breathing exercises which can help regulate our nervous system and ease or reduce heightened levels of alertness by signaling a sense of safety to our body (Marks, 2022) 

The other way our nervous system may respond to stress is by entering a state of hypoarousal. In this state, the body goes through decreased nervous system activity and can lead to shut down or withdrawal due to overwhelm (Neff, 2023). In this state, we may be feeling numb, disconnected, fatigued and dissociated (Neff, 2023). 

In a hypoarousal state, we want to stimulate gentle activation which can be done through: 

  • Grounding exercises that engage the five senses (sight, hear, smell, taste and touch) (Marks, 2022) 
  • Temperature exposure, specifically cold temperatures by splashing ice cold water on the face which activates the sympathetic nervous system 
  • Physical movement can increase heart rate and therefore, increase energy levels 

Tying this all back to the beginning of the post, why does it feel like we can overcome stressors with more ease and confidence on some days and not others? 

Well, there’s a range of factors that can impact how narrow or wide our window of tolerance is. This can include: 

  • Childhood experiences 
  • Previous traumatic events 
  • Psychiatric conditions 

This can even come down to everyday differences. In Dialectical Behaviour Therapy, Marsha Linehan speaks on vulnerability factors which she described as the factors and history that made one vulnerable leading up an event (Linehan, 2015). I’ve listed a few factors below, but I encourage you to think about factors that are potentially impacting how you show up everyday which can be affecting the width of your window of tolerance. Here are a few to get us start thinking about vulnerability factors: 

  • Ongoing stress in multiple realms of our life (e.g., school, work, interpersonal relationships, career, financial situation, health, etc.) 
  • Lack of sleep 
  • Life transitions (e.g., new career, relocating, taking on new roles such as parenting) 

If you can take one piece away from this post, I want to remind you that it is natural for one’s nervous system to shift and change throughout the day. I encourage you to practice recognizing patterns or signs when you feel your body has moved beyond our window of tolerance into either hyperarousal or hypoarousal.  

Neff (2023) suggests a practice called nervous system mapping in which we can set some time, once or twice a day to scan our body and note how we are feeling. Moreover, she notes that just paying attention to a racing heart rate or tension in our body can point towards hyperarousal or fatigue can point towards hypoarousal (Neff, 2023). Paying attention to what our body is telling us is crucial and necessary in order to engage in the skills to regulate us back to our optimal zone and effectively manage daily stressors. 

Understanding your nervous system is an important step toward understanding yourself and how your body responds to stress. We are here to help you along the way. Contact Us if you’d like to speak with one of our counsellors. 

 

References: 

Marks, T. [Dr. Tracey Marks] (2022, May 4). Window of tolerance: what is it and how to stay in it [Video]. Youtube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD8hhboXYTI 

Neff, M. A. (2023, January 8). The window of tolerance: how to build emotional resilience and regulation. Neurodivergent insightshttps://neurodivergentinsights.com/window-of-tolerance/?srsltid=AfmBOopUSbQ677ejHjiAB7rqVG636K66QGOyoV67ozOyqlsxWa8duLYa

Linehan, M. M. (2015). DBT Skills Training Handouts and Worksheets (2nd ed.). The Guilford Press. 

 

 

So What is DBT?

So What is DBT?

Many of us have heard of Cognitive Behaviour Therapy (CBT), which is a beneficial and effective therapy to help us change our thoughts and behaviours. However, you may have had Dialectical Behaviour Therapy (DBT) recommended to you and wondered ‘what’s the difference?’.

What’s different about Dialectical Behaviour Therapy?

DBT is one of several valuable therapies which came out of the CBT tradition.  Dr. Marsha Linehan, who developed the DBT framework, started her career by working with some of the most distressing symptoms which we see as counsellors – suicide attempts, self-harm, addictions and hopelessness. Part of the reason she did that was because – well, she’d been there herself1.

What’s with that word: ‘dialectical’?

The ’dialectical’ in DBT just means opposing – and we come across so many examples of that in our own lives. In DBT, we recognize that there are some things about ourselves and our lives that we may not like, but we have to accept in order to make progress. On the other hand, there are things which we can change, and if we can, we must. This apparent contradiction between acceptance and change (and how to tell the difference), is super-important, and can be very empowering.

DBT is a skills-based therapy. This can seem daunting, because there are quite a few skills to learn, and a full course of DBT skills here at Alongside You takes 24 weeks. However, let’s break down why this may be necessary. We can probably all agree that circumstances in our childhood may get in the way of us learning certain skills (eg emotion regulation). This will mean that, as adults, we will have to learn those skills. We often feel great shame about not having all this ‘at our fingertips’ – but if nobody had ever taught us to read, would we really be surprised if we struggled? Of course not! So we can start removing the shame, and working on learning the skills that will allow us to thrive.

Do I have to have BPD to benefit from DBT?

If you Google DBT, you are going to see reference to Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD). Often, DBT is recommended for BPD which is a distressing condition resulting in difficulties regulating our emotions. It’s clear that adverse childhood experiences are implicated in this condition (some sources suggest up to 90% of clients with BPD have experienced childhood trauma2).

However, this is NOT the only reason to attend a DBT skills group. DBT is a safe and effective therapy for many problems, including:

  • Anxiety
  • Depression
  • suicidal ideation
  • self-harming
  • rejection sensitivity dysphoria
  • and many more3.

I can say, as someone who facilitates these groups, that I personally use these skills every single day of my life. They are practical, simple to understand and relatively easy to implement. That being said, as with every single therapy or intervention, we will get out of it exactly what we put in. The more we practice, the better we’ll get and the easier it will become.

Does it have to be in a group?

Before I became a counsellor, the idea of ‘group therapy’ was something I would totally have rejected. I had a LOT of preconceptions (mostly based on tv and movies!) and a fear of sharing my ‘stuff’ in public. However, having been part of several groups now, I have seen (and felt) the benefits of being in groups. Firstly, concerns about confidentiality can be worrying – however confidentiality is absolutely the first thing we cover in group. Remember, others will be as careful of keeping your stuff private as they hope you’ll be in keeping their info safe! More than anything else, having the opportunity to share your experiences with others who really ‘get it’ and won’t judge you is a truly validating and safe experience. Being able to learn from others’ experiences, have them learn from you and share your triumphs and failures in a supportive environment cannot be overstated. It really is kind of magical – and highly-effective.

Being Effective

Talking about being effective, that’s one of the words you’ll hear most frequently in DBT. Once we start letting go of that judgement (which means letting go of our iron grip on ‘good and bad’ or ‘right and wrong’), we need a helpful way to assess our behaviour and how well it serves us. Enter ‘effectiveness’. Are the behaviours we are exhibiting effective in getting what we want? Or do they make us less effective? It’s a very powerful way for us to evaluate what we’re doing, and how things change when we change.

Freedom Through Control

So, here’s the ultimate ‘dialectic’ (or opposing) concept. When we aren’t good at regulating our emotions, very often our emotions do the reacting and behaving for us. If you’ve ever felt like you are watching yourself having a meltdown while completely unable to do anything about it – your emotions are in the driving seat. Paradoxically, when we gain more control over our emotions, it allows us to choose our response and our behaviour. When we have choices, we gain true freedom. This absolutely does not mean that we learn to squash our emotions down, or ignore them – quite the opposite. By giving them permission to be felt, we can learn how to cope with unpleasant or upsetting feelings, and deal with them in a better way than acting out, hurting others or hating ourselves.

I’m Interested – Now What?

Here is a link to an interview with Dr. Marsha Linehan which explains the essence and basics of DBT4. If you are interested in joining our fall group (starting October 28th), please contact us here to find out more. We look forward to answering any questions you might have!

 

Citations

1   Full Audiobook (Ed.). (2025, June 12). Building a Life Worth Living: A Memoir Audiobook by Marsha M. Linehan. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4x11qE6F-0&ab_channel=FullAudiobook

2     Bozzatello, P., Rocca, P., Baldassarri, L., Bosia, M., & Bellino, S. (2021). The Role of Trauma in Early Onset Borderline Personality Disorder: A Biopsychosocial Perspective. Frontiers in Psychiatry12, 721361. https://doi.org/10.3389/fpsyt.2021.721361

3     Core Evidence & Research. Behavioural Tech Institute. (n.d.). https://behavioraltech.org/evidence/

4     HSE Ireland. (2014, December 14). Marsha Linehan – Interview. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR7Oi0cyoVo&ab_channel=HSEIreland

 

What Does it Mean to Live Authentically?

What Does it Mean to Live Authentically?

Living authentically will vary from person to person. But an overarching explanation is living in a way that is aligned with your values and beliefs, rather than listening to and conforming to external expectations and pressures. It involves choosing with intention and accepting our vulnerability and imperfections. It is the courage to be who you are, by being honest with yourself and listening to yourself, even when you’re feeling sad, scared, or unsure. It’s not about constantly chasing happiness or avoiding discomfort, but about being present and true, even when it’s hard. This might look like saying, “This is what I actually feel,” instead of, “This is what I should feel.”

Why is it hard to live authentically?

Living in a world that constantly tells us who to be can make it challenging to connect with what we truly want or who we are. Other factors, like culture, societal expectations, childhood experiences, and trauma, can also make it challenging to live authentically. These external influences can leave us feeling like we have to perform or hide who we are to be accepted and liked.

But living authentically doesn’t mean doing everything on your own or shutting people out. It also doesn’t mean ignoring others’ opinions or advice, it’s about finding a balance. It means being open to feedback that helps you grow, without letting it shut out your own voice. It’s about being who you are, messy, growing, and just as you are.

Signs you may be living inauthentically

As we are being flooded with messages telling us who to be, how we should look, what success should mean, and how we’re supposed to feel or act, over time, all these messages can pull us away from who we really are. We adapt, we perform, we try to fit in. And often, we end up pushing down parts of ourselves to please others or meet expectations. While this might help us feel accepted, they can take a toll on ourselves. We may struggle with depression, low self-esteem, and feel disconnected from relationships. We can’t deeply connect with others if we are hiding our true selves.

Common signs of inauthentic living

  • Feeling a lack of direction and purpose
  • Feeling like something is missing
  • Constantly seeking external validation
  • Suppressing your opinion to please others
  • Constantly comparing yourself to others
  • Living by “shoulds”
  • Having difficulty making decisions

Ways to start living authentically

Living authentically doesn’t mean being bold all the time or rejecting every outside expectation. It’s more about making small, intentional choices that reflect what really matters to you, your values, even when it’s uncomfortable. And that often starts with simply noticing when you’re overriding your needs, when you’re performing, or when you’re living by “shoulds” that were never really yours to begin with.

It can begin with teasing apart your values and beliefs from those that have been imposed on you. This can be challenging, as we are constantly being overwhelmed with messages from a young age. But living authentically involves small, honest actions. It’s about being real, even if that means disappointing others to stay true to yourself. This could look like:

  • Taking a moment to reflect on your values, what matters to you, rather than what you’ve been told should matter
  • Noticing when you feel like you’re performing or putting on a front for others
  • Taking a small step by saying no when you don’t have the capacity
  • Giving yourself permission to rest without feeling guilty

While living authentically can sound easy, life is not always that simple and neat. Instead, it’s messy, constantly evolving and changing. Living authentically is not a one-time achievement, it’s a lifelong journey. So, if I were to say what living authentically means for me now, my answer would be pretty different from what it was a few years ago, and will likely be different a few years from now.

So, if you feel like you’re not living authentically, give yourself a break and some compassion. It’s common to lose touch with yourself from time to time, especially in a world that constantly pulls you in different directions. Living authentically isn’t a destination or a fixed state, it’s a practice. It’s something we return to again and again. Noticing that you’re out of alignment is already a powerful first step. You don’t have to overhaul your life overnight or even in a few days, just one honest choice at a time can begin to bring you back to yourself.

If you would like support in identifying your values and finding strategies to live authentically, contact us to learn how our team of counsellors can help.

5 Tips for Managing Holiday Stress and Finding Peace This Season

5 Tips for Managing Holiday Stress and Finding Peace This Season

Where did all this holiday stress come from?

Diwali and Thanksgiving are over. Hannukah, Christmas and Solstice are rapidly approaching. Eid is still a little way off. But whatever and however you do, or don’t, celebrate, it’s impossible to miss ‘The Holiday Season’. It’s everywhere. It’s on every social media outlet, tv station, radio station … and it’s exhausting.

Don’t get me wrong – I love me some cheesy music, lots of pretty lights and the excitement of an approaching ‘event’. But even though this year we don’t have children to deal with (ours have grown), major family commitments, or a lot of enforced socializing, I still find myself automatically going into that continuous, low-grade panic state. You know, that constant pressure to get it all done, have my home in a state of decoration that I’d never consider necessary during the year, become an instant gourmet cook, be able to source the perfect locally-made and sold goods (affordably) for people I don’t know that well … and on, and on, and on.

This isn’t meant to be a downer. I’m just wondering, in the middle of this apparent marathon which is December, to take a detour from the prescribed racecourse? Here are some suggestions – and please, this is NOT supposed to be a ‘more things to check off the list’ set of tasks. Just a few thoughts about making some meaning at a time that’s meant to be meaningful, but often leads to sadness, stress, mental load and overwhelm.

 

Make a New Tradition

We all love our traditions, don’t we? Well … do we? I spent years making my family come to pick out and cut down a real Christmas tree – my favourite family tradition – until I realized that everyone except me hated it, and once I knew that, I couldn’t really enjoy it anymore. So, that’s no longer on the list.

So, how about making a new tradition? Or tweaking an old one? Would the big family get-together work better on Christmas Eve, or Boxing Day? Could an annual snowfight become a new tradition in your family? Or a holiday scavenger hunt?

What would it look like to do the usual things, but in a way that didn’t load on hany big expectations?  Could making cookies with the family HAVE to be from absolute scratch with hand-piped designs, or could you buy the ready-made dough with the baked-in designs and let the kids do it themselves (with predictable but fun results)?

 

Play Dysfunctional Family Bingo

How I wish I could take credit for this, but it goes to the author Martha Beck. If you HAVE to attend a family celebration and you’re dreading it (for whatever reason), find one or more fellow attendees who are likely feeling the same as you (whether it’s your partner, a cousin, whatever) and make up a bingo card of all the things you’re worried might happen. Auntie Dolly will have one too many and start singing embarrassing rugby songs. Grandpa will say something insensitive about minorities. Uncle Dave will bring up politics and start an argument. One of the kids will sneak chocolate and get it all over Cousin Sally’s white sofa. You get the drill! That way, when the feared worse DOES happen, then you can sneak a look at your co-conspirators and it will become funny, rather than awful. Trust me, it works!

 

Have Breakfast for Dinner

At some point during the holidays, have breakfast for dinner – whether it’s a huge fried hot meal, or cold cereal. Pair it with hot chocolate or hot apple cider, and make it a fun occasion. Don’t worry – just for once – about making sure the kids have 3 vegetables, or whether they’ll get crazy on the sugar. Just let everyone choose what will make them happy, and release all expectations for just one night.

You could tweak this to be a hot dog night, or anything else that everyone else will enjoy – the point is to take the pressure off everyone for a day, be a bit silly, and take a moment to relax your expectations.

 

For Goodness’ Sake, Get Out!

Isn’t it interesting that we have this perception that we should spend 24/7 with our loved ones at this time? If you don’t play ‘happy families’ at other times, then why do you think that you should be able to do that at a time the stress is already high? Find reasons to get out, whether it’s walking the dog, offering to be the one to pop out to the store to get extra stuffing or being the one to drive someone home after they’ve had a few drinks (buying you the solo drive back home).

The point of this is to manufacture little breaks in your time where you can put on some music/podcast, or just listen to the peace and quiet outside, take a few breaths, allow some stillness to creep into your mind and realize that life will go back to normal soon.

 

Try to Manage Expectations

You may have a very strong opinion on how things should go during the holidays. However, try thinking of things from others’ perspectives – maybe the twins’ parents need to leave early because right now it’s taking 3 hours to get them both to sleep. Maybe Uncle Bert refuses to attend a family dinner because he is scared to drive home at night but doesn’t want anyone to know. We don’t always know why people behave the way that they do, but if we can try to ‘assume best intentions’ – that they have their reasons and it probably doesn’t have anything to do with you – then it’s a lot easier to enjoy whatever energy people bring at this time of year, and return your best to them, also.

 

Support for Holiday Stress: Navigating the Season with Ease

If you’re finding the holiday season especially overwhelming this year, you’re not alone. The pressure to meet expectations, balance family dynamics, and maintain a sense of peace can take a toll on your mental well-being. Alongside You is here to support you during this challenging time. Whether you’re struggling with anxiety, stress, or simply need someone to talk to, our team of compassionate professionals is ready to help. Don’t face the holiday season alone — contact us today to explore how we can help you navigate this time with greater ease and peace of mind.

Whatever your holidays do, or don’t, look like – happy holidays, and I hope you find some peace this year.

Can You Avoid Emotion and Successfully Push It Down?

Can You Avoid Emotion and Successfully Push It Down?

Can I just push this emotion down and avoid what is there? Will this tension just go away?

This is a good question that often I ask or hear others ask.

Researcher and developmentalist Gordon Neufeld answers this question with some umfh

No.

He answers this through differentiating emotion and feelings, which I’ll explain below.

The Importance of Feeling and Expressing Emotions

We are exquisitely complex creatures, and one central aspect of our being is our ability to feel emotions and then let them “move us out” (the actual definition of emotion) into the world. Cultural narratives abound: “it’s just your feelings… get over it.” A familiar message to you? The norm tends to be dismissing these biological functions as irrational whims. It is true emotions can be extreme and regulating them is an important skill, but listening to them is essential. Even more, expressing them is essential.

Freud famously said, “we get sick when we fail to give expression to the emotions within us.”

More and more, research in the medical and psychological fields draws connections between the mind and body, agreeing with both Neufeld and Freud. 

Emotions vs. Feelings: Understanding the Difference

Neufeld uses a funny yet powerful image to drive this home: “It is as essential for emotions to be expressed as it is for bowels to be emptied.” Think about that for a moment.

Now here comes the differences between emotions and feelings: emotions just happen, you cannot change that fact. However, our ability to feel and express these emotions (how he defines feelings) is our response to these inevitable emotions that come and go. For example, while you are at your work emotions might come up, and you could choose not to feel them if they seem to disruptive at the time. However, if these emotions stay underground for too long or never find expression, we face problems. Namely, anger issues, low-level persistent anxiety, and emotional distance from the people we care about.

Emotions Require Movement to Function Properly

How do you ride a bike? Not through staying still, but through movement and motion. In the same way, emotions require this motion to function properly. This requires that, after a stressful day, we have a safe home base to return to, in order to move through the emotions that exist within us. Can you think of someone or place that is this home base for you? A place to express what is going on inside.

A big problem we face is that expressing our emotions requires a safe environment, and this can often feel like a luxury many of us don’t have time or space for. Our fast paced culture, our competitive society, and our fractured social bonds all contribute to this challenge of expressing and understanding our emotions. 

Perhaps it’s time to slow down, take a breath, and take a pulse of how we are doing, what is going on beneath the surface, and risk expressing what we find there. You’ll notice the difference. You’ll feel more attuned to yourself and the world around you, and your vision will be filled with colour as you tap into these wonderful adaptive biological parts of ourselves.

You’ll start living from this centered place: calm, clear, curious, courageous, creative, and connected.

Sounds good to me.

 

Get the Support You Deserve

If you’re feeling overwhelmed by your emotions or struggling to express them, you’re not alone. Seeking support from a professional can help you better understand and navigate your emotional landscape. Our team at Alongside You is here to provide a safe, compassionate space where you can explore your feelings, build emotional resilience, and gain the tools you need to thrive.

Contact Us to learn more.

Helping Parents of Neurodivergent Kids Prepare for School

Helping Parents of Neurodivergent Kids Prepare for School

So, it’s that time of year again… time to gather up your mental strength and prepare to dive back into another school year. However, for those of us with kids under the neurodivergent umbrella, it can be an additional challenge, or even a cause for dread.

Will the teacher ‘get’ your kid?

Should you go in giving them a whole lot of information about your kiddo, or will that start things off on the wrong foot?

How long until the IEP gets updated, and will it even be useful?

Is your kiddo going to throw a fit because this is the year the classroom stops using pencil crayons or they’re expected to learn square dancing in PE?

Support Your Neurodivergent Kid by Supporting Youself

Breathe. I mean it, BREATHE. There are lots of things that you can do to prepare for the new school year, and there are a whole lot of things that you can’t prepare for, and that tends to be where the panic sets in. And I get it – I used to take every ‘first day of school’ off work because I was so anxious about my neurodivergent kiddos that there was no chance of getting any useful work done. I want you to know, though, that this is just one moment in a whole lifetime for your kiddo. It may have huge significance for you, but they may not even remember it in 10 years’ time. So, let’s take a deep breath and adjust our perspective.

There are two issues in parenting a school-aged kiddo who is neurodivergent. One is helping the kid deal with all the challenges they encounter, which may be more complicated than for their more neurotypical peers. The second issue is dealing with your own feelings about your child’s challenges. It can be really hard seeing them struggle with friendships, or be down on themselves because they don’t understand the teacher when they’re explaining math. Our parental spidey senses are constantly on alert trying to anticipate, and avoid, potential problems. So, a lot of our energy is going to be on managing ourselves, and being that calm presence that our kids can rely on as a safe place.

There are a whole lot of things that you can do to help your children with the practical, emotional and social aspects of transitioning to a new school year. For example, along with my colleague Ruth Germo, we have a webinar on transitions to high school. There are a host of good resources out there on the internet, too. And these are the things that parents can keep themselves very busy with at this time of year.

However, this year, I’m going to challenge you (because you definitely don’t have enough on your plates already!) to take a moment a couple of times a day to:

  • Stop
  • Breathe
  • Check in with yourself
  • Feel your feelings
  • Acknowledge the tough emotions
  • Give yourself a little love and grace
  • Recognize that ‘this too shall pass’
  • Refocus on the long-term goals/plans
  • One more nice deep breath, and …
  • Back to it, big smile (you know the one)

Neurodivergent Kids Need Us.

In my humble opinion, one of the most underrated predictors of childhood success in schools is parents. Not because we read to them every night, or make them do their homework, drive them to endless stuff or advocate for them (although that’s all extremely important, too). It’s because we’re the safe space they come home to, and launch from. We’re there to commiserate and comfort them on the tough stuff, celebrate with them on the wins, you know, the ones that nobody else will ‘get’, remember their preferences and needs so that they always have the ‘right’ socks or remember to charge their headphones.

We’re their foundation. And if we don’t give ourselves the bare minimum of consideration and care, we won’t be as able to be that safe space for them. I know, truly, I know, they come first. All I’m asking is that you don’t always put yourself last.

If you find that you’re struggling with this, or any aspect of parenting your special needs children, consider reaching out for help. There are people who have lived experience and education who can understand and who won’t judge you for the fact that your kid has eaten white bread with marshmallow spread every day for the last 6 years because that’s all they’ll eat. We’ve been where you are. And we not only survived it, we can let you know that it is all worth it.